You are right Catspaw, I go back a long way and I still regard the bloody penalty shoot out as very unfair way to find a winner. I understand that the organisers of the Cup have to run the competition to schedule, and trying to find time and space for a re-played game would be a big problem, so we are stuck with the dreaded shoot out. On a sad not Fritz Walter the Captain of the West German team which won the World Cup in 1954 has passed away. Fritz and his brother Adolf played on a German side who defeated a great Hungary team by 3-2, the Hungarians had gone 23 games undefeated until losing to the Germans in a great final. Ard Mhacha.