I see your point Ivy. In engineering the best people are the ones who continously goof off, and never (almost) work more then 40 hours a week. Those who attack a problem on sight waste a lot of time with no idea what they are doing. The goof offs get done much faster because instead of doing it they consider the solution for a while, and then make it work quickly.

Assembly line workers get twice as much done when they work twice as many hours. Brains accomplish less when they work too many hours!

You need to learn two things byond sixth grade: how to learn something you need to know, and how to deal with people. The latter is more important, and it cannot be taught in a lecture setting. (Most important is people who don't agree with you, as we all painfully learned last week) Before sixeth grade you need the old three Rs. (reading writing arithmatic) After that, there is no way you can learn it all, so you need to learn to figgure out what you need and how to find it out.

This is a major departure from education as it exists today.

I'm not sure what our two posts have to do with the orginal thread though.