oldtimer,much as I sympathize with your sentiments and agree that keeping these links available is a good idea....it is hopeless!!Until other genre's get a forum like this, there WILL constantly be incursions from those who simply refuse to acknowlege the need for a narrow focus of ANY definition! When they want a song, they want a song--no matter what the sign on the door says about 'traditional'. I made my dire predictions way back, and have largely given up fighting it. Time will tell....but I will certainly do my part to show the pop/rock/singer-songwriter/musical-comedy crowd better places to go....