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GUEST,The Hated Guest BS: USS Liberty (12) RE: BS: USS Liberty 20 Feb 03


The USS Liberty incident is a good example of the Hegelian Dialectic. Problem-Reaction-Solution. A govt will create a problem to unify the citizens, and the solution will be increased taxes or decreased liberties or war. The Liberty was supposed to draw the U.S. into the conflict in the Middle East...just blame it on Egypt.

Other historical examples:
*Nero burned Rome and blamed it on Christians.
*Hitler burned the Reichstag (parliament) and blamed the Communists.
*Churchill parked the Lusitania in dangerous waters and withdrew it's military escort so it would be sunk with Americans aboard and draw America into WW1.
*FDR knew the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor a week beforehand and let it occur in order to draw the U.S. into WW2
*LBJ made up the Gulf of Tonkin incident. The attack never occurred.
*The USS Liberty was attacked by Israelis and the plan WAS to blame it on Egypt...but the ship didn't go down and too many survivor / witnesses were left. So they were told to shut up.
*The Clinton/Bush secret police bombed the Murrah Bldg. in Oklahoma City in order to get the 'Omnibus Anti-legislation' bill passed.
*The Bush secret police carried out Sept 11 in order to enact 500 dormant 'martial law' provisions.

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials




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