BrĂan - actually I was planning to say a big thank you and no longer annoy anybody but you said that an ending that shocks the listener seems to be a characteristic of traditional songs. I don't consider myself an expert in irish traditional songs but meanwhile I am knowing at least so many of them that I have to look around a little in order to find something new in music shops (this includes music shops in Dublin). I never sensed a shocking ending to be a characteristic of what I got to know of irish traditional songs, so please forgive me this one last question: What songs are you thinking of when you say that? Joerg
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