I'll be at Saddleworth festival next weekend (18-20th)..where there's always some good sing-a-rounds or 'come-all-yehs' (especially the late Sat'day neet one in the C**///tive club and survivors session at the cross keys). I was at the Poyton festival where there were sing-a-rounds and (mostly instumental) music sessions. Noreen, again, is absolutely right. There's room for all. It's all about how individuals express the music and song as they feel and see it. As i've said previously, its all about tolerance, good manners and sharing. Maybe its a lack of those virtues in some people that has contributed to the apparent decline in folk clubs over the years. Its a great shame. Its 2003, are we ever going to grow up!