This is a very English thread reminiscing over 30+ years.... The Young Tradition were singing the Copper family songs in the mid-late 1960s, when the original Notts Alliance were singing, and I reckon they will all (including the Coppers) have heard each other sing both songs. (At the National Festival, which Roy Harris used to run, if not elsewhere.) You could, at a pinch, sing the Innocent Hare to the tune of "When Bucks a Hunting go" and vice versa! It would be great if you could make it over from Hawaii to next year's National at Sutton Bonington, the last weekend in March.