Don, I totally agree with you about Moyers. I don't see him spinning anything on his program. He merely lays it out for us. If he offers any opinion, it's always clearly labeled as opinion. I'm not sure what John meant by his remark, I hope he'll give us an example.

I have noticed that some people's world view or self image or whatever is completely dependent on a need to believe with heartfelt sincerity that things are fundamentally as they should be and, except for a few abberations, all is right with the world. I've run across fundamentalist Christians who genuinely believe that God created dinosaur bones deep in the earth but didn't create any living dinosaurs, ever. To believe that actual dinosaurs roamed the earth conflicts with their creationist theology so it just didn't happen. There is nothing one can say to change these people's minds since their belief system allows them to dismiss facts as the influence of Satan.

Molly Ivins is one of my favorites too. I read her column whenever I can and enjoyed her very brief stint as a 60 Minutes commentator on CBS television. Still, perpaps that short stint on 60 Minutes will qualify her for Rick's list.

      - Mark