Mark, thanks for the info on the chapter by Fuller. I went to the web site and discovered that, as you said, this is some serious reading. A bit intimidated at the idea of reading something that long on the computer screen, I'm going to get my wife Barbara, who works at the library, to drag home a copy of Fuller's book. I've always found Fuller to be one of those rare acute minds that can see right into the core of things and explain it lucidly. Looking forward to reading it.

Several times now I have gone to the PNAC web site to check on something, found similar messages, and wondered if they had pulled the site. Many people, appalled by Bush administration's foreign policy, have written articles and editorials, quoting extensively from the PNAC web site, even posting the URL (much as I have done several times here on Mudcat), saying, "If you don't believe me, read it in their own words!" Since it's an excellent source of information on the true foreign policy goals of the Bush administration, such as geopolitical control of the Middle East (as ghastly as it may seem, 9/11 provided them with a near perfect excuse, and with a lie here and a "spin" there, they managed to sell a "pre-emptive strike" on Iraq to a portion of the American public--and to Tony Blair), those who are opposed to these policies have use material found on the PNAC web site freely in an effort to tell people what's really going on, as opposed to the twaddle the Bush administration keeps feeding to a compliant news media. It would seem that to the extent that material from their own web site is being used to expose them, this would be ample reason for them to discontinue the site. But each time it went off-line, it was only gone for a day or two at most, and it came back, often with the addition of new articles and essays.

I think these people are beyond embarrassment. They seem to have a sort of "In your face, Buster!" quality about them, possibly assuming that since they have their flunky in the White House, a big flag to wave, a huge military machine at their beck and call, and God on their side, nothing can possibly stop them. Self-righteous arrogance, I think, is the key to these people.

Don Firth