Rick, let me preface my comments by saying that I have NOT read every posting to this thread yet. I'm in the middle of some serious designs and bids and I won't have time until midnight. However, the title caught my attention, and I did read your posting.

I have had a lifteime strong aversion to TV. That doesn't mean that I don't watch it, I just choose my programs extremly carefully. The reason I do this is because years ago, I learned one fundemental: The PRIMARY purpose of TV is to sell toothpaste (or cars, or dog food). Given that basic assumption, how can anyone believe anything they see on TV, including your favorite persons mentioned.

The day that Maher sits down in my living room and lays an idea on me, where I can add my two cents worth in a meaningful discussion is the day I will perhaps listen to him. As it is now, his primary job is to sell toothpaste! CHEERS, Bob