I've never had anyone I loved murdered. Kevin McG, I never did have you down as the type who would go round having people murdered, whether you loved them or not.

In the abortion debate, as always, I'm on Peg's side, except that I don't think John Hardly was really mounting a personal assault. I'm finding his posts quite thought-provoking, and well within the bounds of civil argument, even if it's an argument he's losing so far. (No convincing response to Clint's points.)