I agree that Bush, Ashcroft, etc. are not conservatives, but they certainly are NOT liberals, either! Fascists, is probably the best descriptive term, though all political labels have become pretty meaningless today. Molly Ivins, the columnist from Texas had a good quote recently: "Fascism should more properly called 'corporatism', since it is the marriage of government and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini. That's about where Bush & Co. are rapidly taking us.

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