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Thread #62971   Message #1020394
Posted By: Rapparee
16-Sep-03 - 10:30 PM
Thread Name: BS: Grounds for Concern: Patriot II
Subject: RE: BS: Grounds for Concern: Patriot II
Some quotes about "Patriot Act 2." Read 'em, my source for them follows.

"So it looks like they (Ashcroft/Bush & Co.) are very far along in writing this document and are just waiting for a war or 'event' to drop it on Congress' lap. Of course, being the lap dogs they are, they will kneejerk react and pass the whole thing without reading it (just like they did the 540 page PA1; they didn't even take time to read it, much less study it or debate it). We will most likely get an 'event' (courtesy of the gov't?) and will certainly get a war (courtesy of the gov't)."

"The Constitution is hanging by a thread. We need to enlarge and strengthen that thread until it's enough of a rope to hang the bastards who keep jumping out there with scissors, trying to free themselves of its constraints. Then we need to make it stronger in support of liberty."

"If a President like Bill Clinton were to have pushed this agenda, do you think we would allow it??? I think this transends politic party lines..."

""A nation cannot gain safety by giving up freedom. This truth is older than our country. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --- Ben Franklin"

"" Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II"

"Yes, when I think of the words "terrorist attacks," images of the Pentagon burning don't come to mind, nor do pictures of the twin towers crumbling to earth. I see a great country diminished to a shadow of what it once was. All of this happens not from chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons, but from our own passivity and indecision. They label it a "Patriot Act," but I call it a sad, twisted irony."

And now...these liberal, radical, anti-American views were expressed on the website of www.packing.org, proponents of carrying concealed deadly weapons!

It's not just the "liberals" who feel threatened by Patriot Act 2....