Beckham's slip-up on the penalty spot looked a bit suspicious to me. The England team had been told pre-match that they were not allowed to train inside the box. Watching the replay, it looks like a bit of turf has been loosened next to the penalty spot and this just comes away when Beckham's foot lands on it - could be a coincidence but I'm not too convinced. Alpay really was the villain of the piece and ought to be sacked by Aston Villa as he is unfit to play in the premiership. But, the right result in the end and we can now look forward to participating in Euro 2004. Wolfgang - the Germans certainly did Scotland a favour although they still have to get through the playoffs - wonder if they'll meet Turkey???? Giok - if you find football boring then you are not alone on this site, but I think those folkies who are also of a footballing persuasion should have their say from time to time.....