Thanks Charlie, nicely said. Joe, of course I don't think RUS should be outlawed but I do feel as if I've been shot a couple of times by a book. It is the same session althought I don't know if Faith still has a hand in it, it's been 10 yrs. since I was there, but 2 yrs ago while discussing this topic at a festival with an old regular of that session I was saddened to hear of the group's direction. Barry