Trevor, Dave - I can't deny your right to feel aggrieved guys, the same things pee me off too. I just hate it when decent people like me are labelled the same as the drongos. I don't do any of the gormless and anti-social things that you both listed, so I get a bit hot under the collar when people make these sweeping generalisations that all lovers of football are low-life hooligans - especially when it's done on a national basis - "You're an England Fan therefore you're scum, I'm a fan of (any other national team, especially Scotland) and we're as pure as the driven snow" - you know the kind of stuff!

I'm just trying to get it across that English Football fans aren't all bad, and most teams have their clique of trouble-makers. It's unfortunate but true that the trouble-makers are the ones who get noticed whilst the good guys like me and the missus are apparently invisible.

Pax.
Johnny.