Remember to point out to the landlord that under the new act if he is authorised for less than 200 people, and the music is solely acoustic and between the hours of 08:00 and 24:00, then the PEL will cost him/her nothing - zip - zilch - nada. Also they will need a PEL anyway for things like Karaoke, and would you believe Darts competitions (and I do mean competitions in a local league for example). Drawback - the new regime probably won't happen until Mar 2005, so we are stuck with the old law as has been since the 1960's - two in a bar only - so a session of 3 or more has always needed a PEL I'm afraid. It's unusual that the Police would come in mind, as I always thought it was the job of Council Officials, as it's the Council who issues the PEL's.