Ron: yes they were indeed novelties at the folk clubs. My point was that so was the singer/song-writing at the time. You'ld go for the folk music, but you might try out a song you'ld written or a bit of Bach or something for an occasional novelty. But why did ONE of those novelties grow and grow and come to dominate parts of the scene, even apparently driving out the music that started the festivals in the first place, according to some posters?