Fionn: maybe you're right, but i took Joe Offer's terms "vicious" and "ferocity of response" as genuine complaints, which I thought were a bit over the top. But you may be right, maybe he was joking. This typing out stuff into the ether is fraught with misunderstandings, especially when talking across the pond. I know I wasnt vicious, anyway, and I'm pretty sure nobody else was either.