Thanks again Kat, for encouraging a little more diligence. I punched a few more buttons and finally got to listen to the program. (Now you have to go back to "previous shows.") As I listened two words kept coming to my mind - value and education. We teach our young what we value the most. Apparently all we value now is results, so we teach to the next highest bar and hope our kids can jump over it. Hopefully the pendulum will swing back so that learning will once again be about elevating humanity's spirit and our collective conscience. I also thought it interesting how he linked both musical form and lyrical quality in his discussion on music. Obviously my earlier comments are irrelevent, as he was not speaking of abandonment of rules, but rather of a descent from "high" or more trained and intricate forms of written speech and music, to a more common or "low" form where the emphasis is more on the emotion of the prose and speaker/singer rather than the craft itself. The time frame that he places this shift is really fascinating too - fodder for many, many discussions. All in all, very thought provoking.