ttr:

About the masses being asleep at the wheel:

"The great masses of people... will ,ore easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." (Adolf Hitler)

Doug:

There really isn't any "turning over" that is going to occur unless, of course, that Iraq developes pretty much what Bush and Wolfowitz want in the way of a government. You can forget free elections. We ain't got 'em here so its a real stretch to think that Iraq could pull them off. Democracy? Same answer... Yeah, think dictatorship under the guise of "republic" (ha...) with a better behaved Saddam.

BTW, how many folks remember that in Bush/Iraq War I, that Gorbachav negotiated with Saddam a retreat of all Iraqis from Kuwait, and Bush I said, "Firgit it!"????...

Yeah, we had Saddam in our pocket and could have very likely negoitiated to have US bases on Iraqi soil if we had really wnated to... But, no, instead Bush I & II have chosen to both use war as a means of solidifying political power and paying back their military/industrial complex financial backers which is a sneaky way of shifting even more wealth from Amrerica's working class to the moneyed and privedged class...

Oh, those wacky Bush's...

Bobert