While the anonymous GUEST may well be sincere, remember...

"Pain is Nature's way of telling you to slow down."

You ain't getting enough oxygen in the tissues or there is too much lactic acid, and the tissues are dying...

If you get pain in your chest while running a marathon and try to "run thru the pain", you may well have a heart attack and die...

And only a fool would glue their fingernails on if the body was in such a state of disrepair that the fingernails were falling out...

You have pushed too hard for too long, Ebbie... face the music... :-)

The warm soak may help, some Epson Salts (Magnesion Suplhate) in the water will help - also look in the supermart for some sort of "Radox" bath/spa salts or similar product.

The warm/cold cycling bath thing works on the idea that the warmth allows the tisues to expand, then the cold allows them to contract, thus pumping oxygen in, and some 'toxins' i.e. waste products like lactic acid out.

You CAN do 8, 10, 12 or whatever hours a day of the same repetitive muscular activity without damage, ONLY IF you have gradually worked up to it - only a fool tries to eneter a marathon without having built up to it, why would you want to risk your future earning capacity?

I have no respect for people who post such dubious "advice" counter to formal knowledge anonymously, sorry.... as the anonymous GUEST who posted in a thread about internet scams that he/she was making $5000 a day from those African frauds was told in no uncertain terms by me....

One thing we were warned about in the ASMF ST course was the "massage out the bruise" stupidity some trainers/coaches stll adhere to. Legs, for example, have muscles that are encased in a membrane. A bruise may fill the membrance sac with fluid, causing great pain, and immobility due to pressure of fluid caused by internal bleeding. Strong massage may break this membrane, allowing the fluid to leak out. This may appear to fix the problem, but if the muscles are bruised, then they are bleeding internally. If the idiot coach then administers Aspirin either with the rubbing fluid or it is taken internally, then the bleeding is not stopped but promoted..... shall I stop now?

But, it's your life mate....

Say, I got this nice white powder - real cheap - that will take away all the pain... no it's not addictive, trust me...

Robin