Let's stop debating anyone's posts and just let this thread be what it will be. People are free to take wht is useful and leave the rest. Even when what may be needful doesn't appear to have been heard, it is heard and saved for the time when it is useful. Relax. Everyone here is learning and growing in wisdom-- even if we don't always show that. :~) This thread is either a place for debate or for condolence.... and it won't work to try to make it serve both pursuits.

~Susan