McG H: Thanks for letting me off so easy, there.

I admire Gandhi and King. Maybe in the long run their way is best. And I see what you mean with the difference between passivity and non-violence. And if the Nazi Party had practised the same principles . . . . I see the problem as one of getting all the players to play by the same rules. And truthfully, I can't tell you what my reaction would be to losing someone I love to a drunk driver. Or what my response would be to having someone I care for shot or stabbed. I'd like to think I could forgive, but in my heart of hearts, I don't know if I would be able to.

I admire the position of people who advocate and practise non-violence. However, I don't think it is a realistic or 'workable' position in all circumstances.

Last, thank you for letting me off so graciously. I can be a real ass at times. BM