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Thread #65396   Message #1078569
Posted By: GUEST,petr
23-Dec-03 - 12:42 PM
Thread Name: BS: Gadaffi ...Desert Fox?
Subject: RE: BS: Gadaffi ...Desert Fox?
there may be some good ideas in Islam, in fact a 1000 years ago it was the most advanced civilization, but lost that advantage a couple hundred years ago - Lets face it when Napoleon landed in Egypt he swept aside huge armies gathered to face him, and it wasnt until another western country (a few ships led by Nelson) was able to dislodge the french.

I think one of the reasons the Islamic world really fell behind is the system of corruption, and treatment and position of women in their culture. Im sure that the extreme Islamists are humiliated by the past colonialism of the west (most people in the west dont even know the Balfour declaration, or Sykes-Picot agreement but there everyone knows it) but in a recent interview on tv. one arabic speaker summed up the attitude towards the west by saying if you were to set up to
recruitment booths -- one for Alqaeda and one for US Visas, 90% would go to the US visa booths, even though they hate the west they are also envious of it.

looking at Saudi Arabia, the locals are so dependent on oil economy,
(instead of encouraging education and a diversified economy - most of the high level work is done by westerners, and the cheap labour by other foreign nationals while bored young men sit in coffee bars talking revolution)

and they export it. One of the East african embassy bombers came from
a poor region where the wahhabists set up a mosque and started preaching anti-western propaganda. OBL, (Osama) talked about the legitimacy of killing american civilians - but what about muslim americans?

And its not just America thats targeted. There were Alqaeda bombings in France and a shootout in Belgium that was clearly linked to the cell in Canada (Ahmed Ressam the millenium bomber caught at the US border)
the shit heap of ignorance is mostly post such as akenatons.