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Thread #65500   Message #1080400
Posted By: Malcolm Douglas
26-Dec-03 - 04:23 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Some Rival Has Stolen My True Love Away
Subject: RE: version of 'Some tyrant has stolen'
It could well be; I haven't looked all that closely, but I had a nice time yesterday chasing up the various oral versions and discovering that broadside, which does appear to contain material ultimately derived from Price; though what happened in the intervening century-or-so is mysterious, of course. What I failed to mention was the other clear division into two groups, in one of which the truelove has been stolen, in the other (to which the Pitts sheet belongs), lost. Both groups contain material apparently deriving from Price, but it seems that there ought really to be another intermediate form including the tyrant or rival. I'll have a look for more huntsmen, too.

The floating "myrtle tree" verse occurs in one example only of Some Rival that I know of, which Percy Grainger found at Wimbledon; the singer, Alfred Hunt, was from Kirdford in West Sussex. I mentioned it earlier, but probably was not specific enough.

What I want to know is how that Tyrant got back into the song. He doesn't appear in any of the traditional sets that I know about. Perhaps Keith Kendrick was responsible?