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Thread #65500   Message #1080490
Posted By: GUEST,Henryp
26-Dec-03 - 06:53 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Some Rival Has Stolen My True Love Away
Subject: RE: version of 'Some tyrant has stolen'
Kate Rusby acknowledged Keith Kendrick as her source. He in turn acknowledged Eddie Upton.

John Conolly has written a wonderful new song titled Old Men Sing Love Songs, full of subtle references to folk music. Although his name is not mentioned, the words are about the composer and folk song collector George Butterworth.

One line runs "On the fifth day of August, not a cloud in the sky", which is a paraphrase of the start of Brigg Fair, "It was on the fifth of August, the weather being fine". Butterworth died on 5 August 1916, shot by a sniper at Pozières in the Battle of the Somme.

Another line runs "When the banks of green willow are wasted in war", a reference to Butterworth's composition The Banks of Green Willow. Butterworth took both themes for this piece from the singing of Mr and Mrs Cranstone of Wood Dale, Sussex.

Unwittingly, John Conolly has set his words to a traditional tune, which proves to be one collected in 1907 by Butterworth himself, The American King. By an astonishing coincidence, this too comes from the singing of Mrs Cranstone. See M Dawney, The Ploughboy's Glory, EFDSS, 1977.

The title of the new song is taken from Bill Whaley and Dave Fletcher's second CD Old Men and Love Songs. John Conolly has given the song to Bill and Dave and it can be heard on their brand new CD Less Sprightly.