Ah, DougR:

Ben Laudin does not matter, times make the man, not man the times. We are makeing tens of thousands of Ben Laudins with our heavy handed approach to running the world. The point made about Pakistan is a fear on the right and the left. The more we destablize the world the more dangerous it is. Most people did not understand how strong Clinton was, when he called Musharraf in on the carpet and told him to back down and he did. There is an old Gypsy advice, don't hurt an adversary, he will want revenge, make him afraid and you remain in control. Of course, as I said above, there is a third option, create a better future, as with the melting ice caps, we can't afford the waisters like Bush and Cheney's crowd.

Hey... Doug I hope you get to New York, one of these days, ol' skin! We can go listen to some nice Irish music and put politics aside for an evening!

Cheers, Larry