Clint refreshing views - for my own part I have been enjoying watching on this forum those who condemn any actions of GWB Jnrs, because they are the actions of GWB Jnr, and not on the general morality of those actions, twisting and turning, ducking and weaving when comparing the actions of GWB Jnr with, say, JFK's.

Or indeed comparing the legality of JWB Jnrs actions with the untruths etc. of FDR.

I may also say that on the Eastern side of the pond FDR's ilegalities, and misrepresentations are still held in the highest regard.

I think Clint you might be wrong over LBJ - I am not convinced that Viet-Nam was not in fact Kennedy's war. LBJ was tragically wrong in the way he tried to end it.

Gareth