> Martin, just so you know, Two Bears is one of the few people I've
> ever met who has no interest in using recreational drugs. Nor has
> he ever used them.

Halucinogens are NOT necessary. The brain creates small amounts of DMT (Di-Methyl Tryptamine) if memory seves, and uses that halucinogen during REM sleep and visionary experiences.

I agree with the statement of wicasa wakan (holy man) Frank Foolscrow when someone asked if he used Peyote. He said and I quote "I don't need drugs. Wakan Tanka (Lakota name for the Great Spirit) can take me higher than any drug."