I am particpating. My position is this. Those who contribute to the creation of a positive scene here earn the right of community. Those who seek to help and support and provide insight, positive communication and even constructive advice are those with whom I am happy to associate. I am not spoiling for a fight, I am just fed up with smarmy false datums being flung around to the detriment of the community. Here's an example: "The trouble with a management 'team' of trouble-shooters - in this case one that is formed to combat a perceived outside threat - is that the 'team' has a vested interest in keeping that the idea of that threat alive. "

If they were paid for it, I couls see your point. They are volunteers. They have plenty of real life to do. They were asked to contribute their skills to deal with postings gone awry, duplicate posts, as wlel as posts that made personal attacks, spammed the community, sought commercial gain, or aimed to hurt people. As far as I have seen they have done that.

The point where disagreeing with some specific action these site aides have taken becomes harmful is not in the disagreeing but in the casting of clouds oif generalized negativity, blaming the whole site,   and making sweeping condemnations of the kind we have seen on this topic. A lot of volunteer work and goodhearted volunteerism went into this place and I don't care to see it torn down verbally by those who have neither the sight nor the heart to see what is in front of their faces. I won't just shut up about it. I am tired of it.

Thomas, I am not spoiling for a fight in particular.   You and I clashed on an issue about poetics, which is just a friendly dialogue as far as I am concerned.

This is enough said, as far as I am concerned. My point has been made over and over again, by me and others, and I am tired of making it.

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