Shambles, it is a pleasure to make your aquaintance. I am a calm, nice guy. I have this to say: I like the Mudcat and it is not fascistic, totalitarianistic, or any of those other words that are getting thrown around. For instance is not proof. When I fought in the dojang (gym) or the odd tournament, occasionally I get a punch or kick that was technically unfair. Know what? No one gave a shit. I recall taking a spin back kick in the nuts: drove 'em into my body. Hurt like a sonuvabitch. My master made me keep my knees locked and my legs straight. He picked me up about half a dozen times and pile drove me to the floor, where I hit with my heels. It drove my nuts back into the scrotum (where I like to keep 'em), and then he gave me shit for bein' sloppy and causing him grief. He made me finish the match. I lost.

What I'm reading here is Mickey Mouse stuff. I mean you no insult. But I think insults are getting thrown around here. Men take it outside and deal with it. Real men resolve the issue. Remember, most of these people are your friends, and the heat of argument is an easy place to forget that. I have seen that many people here respect you. Have your say, but remember that these are your friends. I don't think you have any fascist friends, do you?

Bruce M