I have already said that I think that arguments about car polution or the bigger issues are spurious here so I will not repeat myself.

As to the points raised about me trying and loosing, fair enough. I will be able to go to smoke free pubs and clubs eventialy, even in the backwaters of Salford! So it is only a temporary set back. I also agree wholeheartedly that smokers do need a place to go. Agreed. No dispute at all.

Nor do I dispute that you can't in all fairness go to a place where people go to smoke and demand they make the place non-smoking. I do however dispute that a folk club is "a place where people go to smoke". It isn't! A folk club is place to go to play and/or listen to folk music! For a folk musician to justify that people with breathing difficulties should be denied the right to attend ANY folk club, to my mind at least, completely beggars belief!

Cheers

DtG