Shambles...you are totally confusing and misusing the concepts of 'proof' and 'evidence'. Videos of R. King proves he was hit...it does not prove what was said or what his or the officers state of mind was..etc...and thus it will always be open to interpretation whether it was 'excessive' use of force....as will 'exactly' what happened in JFK's assassination, no matter how many ballistics tests are conducted or how many feet of film analyzed.

As far as Mudcat goes, you seem to be claiming that the very fact that some posts have been deleted 'proves' that the act of deletion is obviously indefensible! You cannot seem to even comprehend that anyone could disagree: " If we can ALL finally accept that there is a problem..."...... we do NOT all 'accept' OR agree..in fact, most of the comments clearly DISagree with you, above & beyond the fact that Max is ok with *his* system running as it is.

You 'seem' to have switched from blanket condemnation of editing and/or deleting posts to claiming that the BS section should be exempt. Nowhere was it ever decided that the BS area was fair game for any sort of spam, stalking, hate messages, personal insults and inhoherent babbling! The BS section was merely to allow 'reasonable' off topic discussion to be avoided by those who wanted the basic music & technical discussions to be less cluttered. The BS area allows a LOT of latitude in plain silliness, political discussions, religious debate and even THIS interminable meta-debate of the rules of debate!

You need to get used to the idea--you have proved nothing about whether some 'censorship' here is right or wrong...IT IS A MATTER OF OPINION!!..just like discussions of God or whether G. Bush and T. Blair are assholes or not, or whether aliens exist (those are 'obvious' to some!)...

Not only is it not a matter of a vote, since Max gets the only real vote, but if it WERE a matter of a vote, you are out-voted! Even J0hn from Hull didn't want his deleted posts to be defended!

The only vote you get is the same one you get with the TV 'off' button. Please...talk about other things or push that button!