My daughter and I were big Reds fans for years but I lost a good deal of respect for Rose when he told a reporter that he had "never finished a book" - and he wasn't talking about writing it.

I don't understand the 'Hall of Fame' distinction. No matter whether or not he is ever listed in it, he will never lose his record of accomplishments. Why not start a list such as that? Name it something else entirely - there will be a good many players on it.