MAV:

"With us or with the terrorists" is the most mindless drivel I have ever heard, and it pains me to hear it spouted in connection with a nation I am a member of.

First of all, you had better be willing to define the "us" for which you presume to speak.

Second of all, it would help if you defined your impression of the "terrorists" -- do you mean those members of Al Qaeda under Osama bin Laden? Or other terrorists. Does that include the FBI and the IRS?

Third, do tell us what you mean by "to be with" a group -- does that mean blind compliance and agreement with all policies high or low? Or is free discussion occasionally allowed, and if so how much? If one disagrees with, say, a tax rule, is one being un-American in your malevolent little mind?

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