Gareth,

I respectfully disagree. Those who hold fascist beliefs have made a concerted effort to demonize the word/s thereby *limiting* the discussion and drawing attention away from them. These are the same folks who throw the "L" word around liberally (no pun inteneded in a manner to framew one issue afetr another.

My position is that what's good for the goose is also good for the gander. It's time for progressives to stand up and start doing a little framing themselves. It a matter of a level playing field.
And it's also a matter of what is really happening with the way things are going and who's steering the ship.

Bobert