"... has no factual context. and if he did, why would he not simply present that when queried and
put the whole issue to rest? when politicians dodge questions it is usually because there's something they don't want us to know and this is true of dems and repubs."

in your usual fashion, teribus, you take things out of context and twist them to fit your meaning. you'll note that in my response to doug i never offered an opinion as to whether or not he had permission and i don't think having been in the military offers doug any more knowledge about the FACTS in this case that you or i have. my point was that the FACT that bush does not address the question would "tend to indicate" that there may be something he would not like us to know.

having served in the military offers absolutely no more knowledge about the answer to this question than not. my remark is correct and is not out of order in any way.

i served in the military during the vietnam war but did not have to go to vietnam. not that it's any of your buisness or has any relevance to the point we are discussing.