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Thread #66247   Message #1104500
Posted By: McGrath of Harlow
29-Jan-04 - 02:31 PM
Thread Name: BS: Are we still having fun as Fascists Yet
Subject: RE: BS: Are we still having fun as Fascists Yet
And it works for a lot of other movements as well, including Arafat's opponents.

That list was not intended as a definition of Fascism, but as a list of some of the characteristics which could be claimed for it, and used as a distraction from other less attractive qualities. Rather in the way that, if you were listing the appeal of MacDonalds, you would include some features you might find in a place where they sold good food.

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The point about a corporation is that, while treated in law for many purposes as a person, it is an amoral person. It is possible for human beings who control it to impose ethical standards on it. But often the human beings in control do not choose to do so, or find themselves powerless to overcome the drive to achieve what is seen as the primary aim of the corporation, profits for shareholders.

The state is essentially a special kind of corporation, looked at in these terms. The Fascist state brings out that essential identity especially clearly

What is needed in both cases is an equivalent of Asimov's Laws of Robotics, inbuilt ethical standards which get in the way of doing things that damage society and the environment, and provide a safeguard against it falling into the control of human beings who are willing to subordinate ethical considerations to other aims, such as profit or power. That is the situation which is very characteristic of Fascism, but also of virtually all states, when push comes to shove.