WW, last year I had a patio tomato, little cherry ones, wihtout a patio! They did really well and tasted lovely fresh off the vine, warm from the sun. Veggies can be done here, if you have a lot of time for them and start them inside early.I got the rollups at *GASP*....WallzMart. I was surprised they did anything and wished I'd put them in earlier.