dianavan, I couldn't agree more with you on that one. I had been working as a supervisor in a steel mill in the mid seventies, and had a creew of 35 men working for me. Well, the mill closed and moved south to a cheaper work force, and since I was unemployed I decided to go back and finish my degree, at that time, in music. I was working part time for a dentists doing maintainence, yard work, etc and he also had a high school kid who worked sort of under my guidance. ONe day his daughter, a bratty little nineteen year old kid who had never worked for anything in her life came by the ofice and saw this and said to me, "I bet it is kind of fun playing the boss to that boy, isn't it?" I could have rung her neck. I still have a hard time identifying with people who have never had to work for their money. That includes all the little spoiled rich kids as well as the ones who have figured how to ride the system and get stuff for nothing.