That's a lot of rot, Fionn. There was and is nothing covert about Job's Daughters and the main advantages ANY of us received from it were to develop the ability to speak well in public, carry ourselves with grace, appreciate the arts, learn the value of patience and perseverance, and be of service to others. Any claim of anything else is a lie.

freda brought up a good point. I've met fellow Rosicrucians, from eastern Europe, who were persecuted for not walking the party line. Their last winter there, before they fled to Canada, they had to burn all of their furniture and books to stay warm. The only ones they didn't burn were their Rosicrucian ones. I've also studied the history of the Rosicrucians during WWII and other troubles times, when secrecy was of utmost importance in order to save lives.

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kat