Frank, I didn't mean to give the impression that because "the same people were saying the same things..." it isn't still fascinating to discuss. I guess I find trying to make folks like Stewie (please, no offence) have fun with it, just becomes an excersise in futility. It's like a belief in a diety. If you're an independent thinker and you haven't had that personal "cataclysmic awakening", no amount of convincing from the devout is going to make you see it their way. Having said that, I accept that my point of view on politics, and most other things can change (sometimes) daily. Every new student I work with gets my subtle (and not so subtle) push towards the tradition, til I sometimes feel like a folkie evangelist! When someone wants to play like Ry Cooder, Jerry Garcia or James Taylor (or even on occasion, your buddy R. McGuinn) I try to expose them to the folks that their heroes learned from. The difference of course is that they're paying me to be their guide! If they're open to "positive conversion", I'm happy to oblige. Then I try to get them to check out Mudcat!

Rick