Dear Bill, thanks, I knew roughly what you were doing, but (a) I was wondering if you had somehow put your graphic onto the Mudcat Server for retrieval; and (b) I misconstrued the loading pattern -- I thought you had put one of those motion thingies (to be technical) in. Thanks for the clarifying. It is pretty neat -- the only real problem is that it slows down the loading time. It does raise the prospect of posting graphic versions of the proposed T-shirt logo, etc. in one of these threads, rather than somewhere else. Thanks again. Yours, Peter