"I think "both sides" have admitted that they could have done more, GUEST. Do you have any suggestions as to
what either or both of them should have done?"

since you seem to have altered your "never reply to a guest" policy dougR, i invite you again to consider the documented bush lie i posted on the "popular views of the bush admin." thread and let us know if you do consider it to be an actual lie. it is documented in both print and videotape as a statement GWB made during an interview with the polish news service.

one thing both administrations should have done was tell the truth to the american people about what goes on and lift the veils of secrecy that the national security state uses to further its own political and economic agendas. in the current case declassifying all the testimony of the principals including the emails and communications of rice and clarke to let people make up their own minds rather than being subject to political spinmeisters would be an astonishingly bold expression of faith in the american people to decide their own fates in the world. think that's gonna happen?

by the way, that last guest post was not me. i identify myself as guest from NW.