Guest2, this is a difficult subject for anyone to find middle ground. I truly understand your points and I do agree that too many commercials and pop culture lean toward promoting sexuality at the cost of respect for dignity and basic rights.

At the same time, I do not feel that I should feel guilty for appreciating the beauty of another human form. While the instances that you mention do describe an unfortunate attitude in society, I don't believe that most men fall into that catagory. Looking at a Victoria's Secret catalog does not make a person a "pedophile". After watching the commercial, I am not going to make lewd remarks to my female coworkers. Men that have those sort of "issues" are going to have those problems regardless of what society throws at them. People learn respect, or disrespect, for the opposite sex much earlier AND at home.

While men (myself included) will glance at a Victoria's Secret catalog, we are not going to go out and buy the product. Any company that markets themselves to people that aren't going to do business with them are not long for the market.

I completely disagree with your description of Bob Dylan as "leering" and "getting his jollies". While you may interpret him as a "powerful male", I think there are others that would disagree. I have seen Dylan in concert many times over the years, and this is bascially his normal look.