GREAT responce JTT

I agree - pits feel no pain - and they can be one of the strongest willed creatures on the earth - mine has ripped apart two different gates - trying to get back INTO the yard - after he had bullnosed - cut - scrapped himself getting out.

To place Georgian Silver's comment into context you need this:

Irish Dog Fight

"Where's Shaun O'Toole?" growls the tough guy.

Little bloke in the corner gets up, "that be oi, that be."

Tough Guy - "I hear you got the toughest dog around these parts?"

O'Toole - "T'be sure T'be sure"

Tough Guy - "Well this here's Ripper, on account that he rips off his oponents heads. He's the biggest Doberman/Pit Bull cross in the United Kingdom. He ain't never been beat and 5000 quid says he'll rip your dog to pieces". O'Toole - "thems moighty foin words a spakein moi man. But 'tis a foin lookin beast y'ave. Tell e wot, lets moik it ineressing. $10,000 an oil see wot oi c'ndo".

Tough Guy is a little taken back by O'Tooles confidence, but knowing the mean ruthless streak of his own fine dog, he greedily agrees to the bet.

A crowd gathers in the back yard. O'Toole at one end with his dog laying on the floor with a little smile on its face,and the Tough Guy at the other end straining to hold his dog at the leash, its teeth gnashing and muscles rippling.

The referee blows the whistle and the big Doberman/Pit Bull tears across the courtyard at the other dog which is ambling forward. There's a brief 10 second exchange of grunting, snarling, snapping ferociousness, and then O'Tooles dog tears the big Doberman to bits, There's legs and ears everywhere, bits of guts hanging out the mouth of O'Toole's dog, and blood all over the place.

"Fuck me!" says the Tough Guy

Handing over the money, he continues,"I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen hundreds of dog fights. Tell me - what kind of a dog is that?"

"Well oi calls him a short legged, long nosed, long tailed terrier, but oi 'ave 'eard t'other people reckon 'ees a crocodoil!".

Sincerely,
Gargoyle