"If you don't act to remove him, the blood is on your hands."

Well, then I guess both Bush and Kerry voters will have mighty bloody hands.

MTed, I'm not interested in the war on Iraq being "managed" as you call it. I am interested in the Anglo American war on Iraq being ENDED. PERIOD.

Both Bush and Kerry have said they have no intention of ending the occupation and war on Iraq.

Only Nader and Kucinich have said they would, upon taking office, begin an immediate phased withdrawal of the occupying forces in Iraq. So how do you square a vote with Kerry, as being a vote to end the occupation and war on Iraq? It isn't. Kerry has said he will not withdraw troops. He said he will try and get other nations, through a UN resolution presumably, to send troops to "relieve" ours.

How is that going to happen when the UN has already pulled out of Iraq, and countries and companies are currently pulling out daily?

Maybe you think there is some honor to not "cutting and running" but that is exactly what everyone else involved in this debacle is doing. It is what the US will eventually do too, IMO. And Iraq will again be plunged back into yet another primeval cycle of out of control chaos, violence, and despair.

THAT is what your vote for Kerry is going to do. At least, if we can get our troops and the American oil companies and their goons out of Iraq sooner rather later, and provide copious amounts of humanitarian aid to rebuild, the Iraqis stand a chance of turning things around without the country being overrun by Muslim fundamentalists.