Geez, I just sent Rick a note apologizing for continuing this thread, but.............

Barry, I think what angers me, is when a Tris or a Jack is excluded or included in some activity without consulting the 24/7 people first. As you said, we're often treated as being at fault or whatever, and our thoughts on the subject are not taken into account in the decision making because we are not "trained professionals."

Spaw