anyone who has had an out of body experience knows that they can exist outside their body, they they do not need the body to remain conscious, to perceive.
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   Aloha nui loa Freeya (appologies if I misspelled your name)

   I agree completely! I used to be exactly like Bill D (a convinced athiest) until I had an OBE while meditating.

   That OBE gave me confirmation of life after physical death, and gave me a spiritual awakening.

Two Bears